Ehem , I will say this ….I am a very bad captive ..My serves are dreadful and epic …..I pee in paga bowls ….Smash dinner plates because I’m so clumsy…..so if they ever ask you to cook a chicken dinner for them , remember, forget to take the plastic wrap off of it. Give the guards a shrinky-dink chicken for dinner! (^__^)
keep in mind this is gor, while it was at times violent and midevil, goreans were never cruel for cruelty sake. In the books, person were arrested and sent to mines for cruelty, cities valued any possible slaves and would punish those that devalued them.
Whippings were a punishment. So was restricting clothing movement etc.
For captives, the goal is always to either get them to submit or keep them for trading. Now would you seriously damage something you wish to own or use to get goods or a member of your tribe back?
Goreans used their minds and trickery to force slavery. They relied on the pillars of gor, which apply to slaves and free alike. Submission if freely given was something the person could not take back. if forced through torture it means nothing, But if gotten through trickery, it still was free submission.
A captive that eats form your hand, is submitting. A captive that say what you want because they will die if they don’t is not.
Slavers were taught to “Bring out the slave” in captives. Once brought you it was said, they could never be free again. This was accomplished many ways. The most effect ones, were to force a captive to act like a slave. Keep them leashed and naked, forced to mover around a city or camp as slave, forced to kneel etc. forced to serve in taverns etc.
Sexual torture was also used a lot, bring out the heat in a girl, but not permitting her to fully enjoy it till she admits to wanting it and submits.
Cutting off fingers, hands etc, was usually saved for males, who were thieves and occasional females that were thieves, though in the females cases they were usually whipped and then handed to slavers to attempt to get them to submit.
Goreans did not torture captives violently. In war they were known to put those not able to survive to a quick death of honor. Take the spoils, free women, and slaves. Drive the free women to submission.
Healers and greens were taboo to attack. Greens moved freely. Those in the wild when captured in panther tribes, outlaws etc, were treated with great respect and many times left to tend to their own captive members and slaves, or released.
The violent use of torture would be seen as a crime in gorean cities, and i would imagine merc and outlaw camps as well. The same can be said for Panthers that in their own right considered themselves free and gorean, using many of the same codes as the warriors.
Be creative with captives.
– Whippings, acceptable if a captive refused to obey commands. – withhold food – force submission by starving and then offering food form your hand. – Stripped naked, collared and leashed. Very gorean. – Treated as slave, when captive, Held on leash, forced to do slave duties in city or camp. Forced to serve. Very gorean. – Piercing captives. Very gorean. Pierced persons were considered slaves. – Branding. – Very gorean but normally only done after submission is freely given, though it was forced in the books on others as well, such as the girls brought form earth. – Forced to use thrid person. contrary to some, third person talk is not normal for slaves, but is a punishment, and perfect for captives. make them think like a slave. – Caging, threats, force feeding if refuse to eat, trickery, mind games. all very gorean.
– Mutilation – Very ungorean. it only happened in battles normally, when someone was wounded while fighting. – Damaging slaves. Normally the most common was cutting the tendant only on slaves that ran away. Saves are property. do you cut the leg of a expensive dinning room table? Your favorite chair, do you cut off the padding? Do you kick in your car doors? NO, so why would you do it to a slave or possible slave.
Beating captives you wish to keep as slaves or torturing them is like buying a new car and taking a sledge hammer to it.
Torturing captives you want to trade for goods or your own people is like a car dealer getting cars to sell and taking a sledge hammer to them, then expecting you to pay full price for it.
One of the most gorean tricks in the book is to try to convince your captive your helping them. Make them indebted to you. Treat wounds, explain how they are far better off now. protected, cared for etc.
Obtaining submission was never an easy task, which is why most cities had experts. Slaves also were very good at helping. Telling captives how much better off they were. The “Wonders of slavery” protection, pride in service, love, devotion, etc. Lets all think a little more gorean.
EXAMPLE OF CAPTIVE RP:
[09:43] Hot Lavendel: Tal Branca
[09:43] Branca Auditore looks at marli and smiles ” tal marli ”
[09:43] Alleraia shivers at the running of the blade up her skin, “You have my demand for getting the information free. Otherwise you’re free to figure it out yourselves.”
[09:44] Marli nodded and smiled at branca “Tal ”
[09:44] jJenifer Violet: tal branc
[09:44] Cherry Avro growled in anger…a mere bag of sugar, for her? She lifted her chin some more, and looked at the woman who spoke, haughtily.
[09:44] Lidia laughs “I do like a challenge” she withdraws the blade and positions herself in front of her, she takes the fine tip of it and lifts her chin up roughly to eye level
[09:44] Branca Auditore: ” i have seen some battle remaining arrows , near our camp , your tribe’s arrows were one of the feathers i have found , no one in camp to tell me what is going on or what happened , thought you might be knowing something , do you ?” she loks at jj ” tal JJ ”
[09:46] Marli glances at Branca “Mine ? maybe ….I did shoot at Alika and her band when they attacked near the di jan camp earlier today”
[09:46] Alleraia grins back, “I suppose you found yourself one. What is your answer?” she asks, staring back at Lidia as she allows her to life her chin.
[09:47] Branca Auditore looks at marli ” alika’s tribe , i did not think that they would come here that far , anyone of the di’jan was caught there ?”
[09:48] Marli nods “I heard Ani say they took Devi……no one else ”
[09:48] Branca Auditore narrows her eyes ” do you know if she is still caught ?”
[09:48] Lidia looks sternly at raia “You will not play games or you will regret it”
[09:49] jJenifer Violet: heheheh…they an easy tribe Branc, you could prob go there and cap them all single hadedly
[09:49] Marli shrugged , truth was Marli had been too busy in a raid and these new captives “I do not know Branca ”
[09:49] Branca Auditore nods ” very well , thank you very much marli ” she looks at jj and chuckles ” be a good girl now ”
[09:50] Alleraia smirks, “I’m not playing any games with you, I’m making you a deal. It’s up to your whether to refuse or decline my offer.” she says, balancing her stance a bit as she begins to dry. Her boots will not dry for some time while worn though, she worries about infections she heard LaRo talk about caused by wearing sopped boots for too long.
[09:51] Hot Lavendel grins at the girl when she walks to the end of her leash for the thirt time
[09:52] Lidia looks over to jj “What shall we do?” she keeps the blade under raias chin
[09:52] jJenifer Violet: so whats the outcome with these Mar….winls
[09:53] jJenifer Violet: well since Marli invited us to go collecting with her tribe I surely think it is all up to her what to do with these here, trthough IUi think they will make her some very noce slaves here don’t you tinh?..winks
[09:53] DarkflameRising: Lunges forward knocking Lavanda to ground with leash wrapped about her feet slams knees int her chest as she falls
[09:53] Hot Lavendel: aye they will sis
[09:53] Marli grins when she hears Hot , “she can pee in a paga barrel, you now the ones we keep for our trades ”
[09:53] Hot Lavendel: unless we sell them untrained
[09:54] Hot Lavendel: aah right…laughs
[09:54] Lidia grins “Aye” she looks back to raia and withdraws the blade about a foot away. She grabs her arm bindings and kicks her feet out from under her to land her on the ground
[09:54] jJenifer Violet: Hey….you tryig to deminish yourself here Dark as she sees what she just domne to Hot!
[09:55] DarkflameRising: bite at Lavandels throat
[09:55] Marli then glances at JJ “we have a nice deal set up with a slaver in Kamba ……he will trade for untrained slaves …..even girls like these ” she points at the captives
[09:55] Hot Lavendel: as i see it, selling them to Kamba will bring us 3 bags of sugar and when they want to trade for their freedom with the slacer he wants to have a profit and he will ask 6 bags from their tribe
[09:56] Lidia is distracted by the scuffle “Fiesty one aint she?” looking over to dark.
[09:56] jJenifer Violet: Ahhh that is a very good idea…kamba will pay handsomely for these here…smiles
[09:56] Cherry Avro grew tired of waiting around for the women to make up their minds…her eyes still locked on Raia…trying to read her, what she had in mind.
[09:56] Marli nods in agreement with Hot , sees the scuffle go on
[09:56] Hot Lavendel: so we can sell them to their tribe for 5 bags and then their tribe will be having a profit to
[09:57] Alleraia hits the ground with a grunt, not offering any resistance. She watches Dark and shakes her head, knowing they don’t have enough of a chance to act as such. “My value with increase ten times with my bit of information. Surely that’s worth letting the pledge go?”
[09:57] Hot Lavendel: that meaans aat the end all are happy..a win win situation for all i think
[09:58] jJenifer Violet: so shall we escort these with you marli to kamba or you got it all under control
[09:58] Marli grins and rubbed her hands “sweet deal for all concerned ”
[09:58] Rogue: buttons you stay at my side understood
[09:59] Marli laughs “…..well not for the captives….obviously”
[09:59] Lidia curiously observes her non-resistance and raises an eyebrow. She rolls her onto her belly and presses down on her arm bindings.
[09:59] jJenifer Violet: hahaha….true and pokes cherry in the ribs
[09:59] Hot Lavendel: even for the captives En…they will be one bag cheaper thatway
[09:59] buttons: yes Mistress
[10:00] Rogue: smiles good girl
[10:00] Alleraia clenches her jaw, hissing as she presses down. “Think of how much candy you could buy with 10 gold pieces. You could even afford chocolate.”
[10:00] Hot Lavendel: you will tell your En we are a reasonable tribe girls…smiles
[10:01] Cherry Avro growled out again as she got poked in the ribs, feeling already uncomfortable with her arms bound behind her back…trying to wiggle a little bit to keep some feeling in them and the blood flowing.
[10:01] jJenifer Violet: hahhaa…like they even have 10 gold peices….snorts
[10:01] Lidia laughs “10 gold pieces? for you? ” she cant keep herself contained
[10:01] Marli laughs “……..indeed ……the Ubar paid them 10 gold for services rendered in the sheets”
[10:01] Lidia: “What are you, the offspring of an Ubar?” she continues to laugh
[10:01] jJenifer Violet: hahahhaha
[10:02] Lidia takes her dagger and slices away her shirt and underwear
[10:02] jJenifer Violet: well shall we go to kamba then with these here. oh…I think we should get them ready first….don’t ya think?
[10:02] Marli: mhm…..strip em
[10:03] Lidia looks to the others “Before trading.. we should perhaps break them in”
[10:03] Alleraia laughs, “If you don’t know, you must not have handled much slave trade.” she says as Lidia slices away her undergarments. “You can even verify it here. So, where is your answer?”
[10:03] Hot Lavendel grins taking her dagger and cuts the band of her quiver then trows it behind her
[10:04] Marli smirks , she and her sisters had already had many dealing with the slaver
[10:04] Hot Lavendel: then cuts the girls skirt and lets it drop were she stands
[10:04] jJenifer Violet takes a knife and cuts the straps off of cherry’s top letting it fall to the ground
[10:04] Lidia grins and flips her onto her back to rip away the front cloth
[10:04] Hot Lavendel hooks her blade behind the strin of her top and cuts it to
[10:05] Hot Lavendel spanks the girls ass….now you ready girl…grins
[10:05] jJenifer Violet: /ne then unstraps the side pouch on her left upper leg and lets that fall to the grouns thinking it is a quiver
[10:05] Lidia cuts away her leggings and removes her shoes
[10:05] Hot Lavendel watch it jiggles
[10:06] Lidia: “Do we have someone who can do a slave exam?” she inquires having figured it out.. possibly..
[10:06] Hot Lavendel: bigger then mine En…you tell Lune
[10:06] jJenifer Violet then knocks her onto her ass asnd pulls her boots off her and tosses them aside
[10:06] jJenifer Violet cuts her leg band off her as well smiling at her the whole time
[10:06] Cherry Avro shuddered a little in the cool air as her brief skins were cut and torn off her body, gritting her teeth in anger…Crying out in surprisement and pain and her feet got knocked from under her and she fell onto the ground.
[10:07] jJenifer Violet then at last cuts her arm bands off her as well leaving her ready for selling
[10:07] Rogue: so girl
[10:07] Rogue: what tribe are you
[10:08] Marli grinned widely , showing her pearly whites to Hot “olie bollen ” she winked at her
[10:08] Hot Lavendel: hehehe
[10:08] Alleraia closes her eyes as her clothing is removed piece by piece, eventually left near naked on the ground. “Think you may have figured it out, hmm? What do you think you might have figured out?”
[10:08] Hot Lavendel: we are the Reasonable tribe girl
[10:09] Lidia takes one of her soggy leggings and presses it into her mouth (attempts to) in order to quiet her
[10:09] Cherry Avro looked up to the woman before her, laughing bitterly. “You don’t even know? I am of Jan Tri’Shena. What does it matter, to you?”
[10:09] Rogue: kicks the girl in the face
[10:09] Rogue: im sorry did i say you can speek to me like that
[10:10] Alleraia keeps her jaw clamped shut, looking over at Lidia with glare. She grunts uhuh as she shakes her head.
[10:10] Rogue: your not jan tri your a wannbe
[10:10] Hot Lavendel: mmmmm…..carefull with the merchandise…grins
[10:10] Cherry Avro cried out in pain, her head jerked to the side as she suddenly got kicked in the face, spitting out some blood and snapping her mouth shut this time.
[10:10] jJenifer Violet: well we all reaedy fr the journey?
[10:11] Lidia: “Need some time breaking this one in before travel”
[10:11] Hot Lavendel nods
[10:11] jJenifer Violet: soon as Lidia finishes that is….smirks
[10:11] Marli looked at the sorry state of the women and nodded
[10:11] Rogue: now i asked your name best learn to speek with respect
[10:12] zombiegirl25 Resident shouts: pulling the flag out of her bag.she looks over to her friends before yelling”we come in peace we just wanted to bring your some fish of the sea,,or is that chicken of the sea”shrugs. pushing the flag in the dir.shaking her cute ass at all the people
[10:12] Lidia tosses the legging aside. She looks the girl over.
[10:13] Cherry Avro would not even look at the woman anymore, she didn’t care to as she replied to her simply “I am Cherry.”
[10:13] Rogue: you are cherry the slave girl
[10:14] Lidia trails her blade along her collarbone, without pressing it under the skin.
[10:14] Hot Lavendel lookes at the girl next to her…and you will be called Oliebol from now on
[10:14] Cherry Avro stayed silent again, staring at the ground firmly…hoping it would open up and swallow the arrogant woman before her.
[10:15] Marli: “cherry the slave girl……at least untill her new owner decides to give her a name…..like lil urt ”
[10:15] Rogue: who are you cherry
[10:16] Cherry Avro gritted her teeth together…the woman was sorely mistaken if she thought of her to give in so easily. “I am Cherry, the panther girl.” She replied.
[10:16] Alleraia looks up at her cautiously, waiting for the next move. She steadies her breathing while she has the chance, not believing that they could do any worse than the 20 lashes she received from a whipmaster in Kassau for attacking their regent.
[10:16] Rogue: kicks the girl in the head again
[10:17] Rogue: then begins to step down on her toes with my boot puting more and more pressure on her ankle as she sit now lets try this again cherrry what are you
[10:17] Rogue: do you want me to step down completly best learn your place
[10:18] Lidia follows the contours of her torso, keeping a firm grip on the blade to keep control of its depth. She trails it down to raias groin then presses the cold part of the blade to her lips. She watches her, curious of her reaction.
[10:18] DarkflameRising: breathing inn slowly deels rope slip a bit
[10:19] Cherry Avro groaned out in pain as she got kicked again…her lip was bloody now, and her face was starting to get bruised…but she would not call herself slave, not to these women. SHe whined in pain as the woman stepped on her foot, trying to squirm away from her..
[10:19] Rogue: puting more and more pressure down as i wait for the responce
[10:19] Alleraia looks down at the blade nearing her lips, pursing her lips and beginning to look rather worried. She continues to practice steady breathing while this is happening, trying to keep calm.
[10:19] Marli calls over to JJ “We should l head to the docks , the sun is going down and the last ship will leave soon ”
[10:19] Rogue: puting more down maken it allmost touch the toes to the ground
[10:20] Rogue(: now answerr right girl
[10:20] jJenifer Violet: Aye…I think we should….help me get her to her feet rogue’
[10:20] Cherry Avro cried out in anger and pain, yelling “You will gain nothing for me, if you render me useless!”
[10:20] DarkflameRising: loosining knot
[10:21] Rogue: pulls cherry to her feet
[10:21] Rogue: and punshes her in the stomack
[10:21] Rogue: rips off her necklace
[10:21] Lidia feels a bad omen travelling on the winds
[10:21] Lidia: withdraws her bow
[10:22] Cherry Avro doubled over, grimacing in pain as she was punched in the stomach harsly this time…but still keeping her mouth shut, barely wincing as her necklace was torn from her throat.
[10:22] Rogue: checks darks ropes seen that there a lil lose and tighens them back up
[10:22] Lidia secures raias bindings tight
[10:23] DarkflameRising: as she tightens knots I kick her hard in groin
[10:23] Hot Lavendel: cOme girl we travell
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